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Netstat -vat by Sean Michael Kerner (bio)

A command line view of IT



Open Source vs Proprietary Routing Rumble

dave.roberts_small.jpgLAS VEGAS. Some Interop sessions have more drama than others. A session with open source routing vendor Vyatta squaring off against giants Cisco and Juniper, provided both drama and humor as the trio aggressively debated the merits of their respective technologies.

For Dave Roberts, VP strategy and marketing at Vyatta, the session was all about calling out the proprietary vendors on price and choice. Both Cisco and Juniper responded in kind during often heated exchanges that had the audience laughing and gasping at the same time.

Jonathan Davidson, Director of marketing Edge routing business unit at Cisco explained that Cisco has high availability features that software only solutions like Vyatta cannot provide. Vyatta is an open source Linux based routing solution.

Roberts then challenged Davidson to say how much it cost to get the high availability features. Initially Davidson did not provide a price but eventually stated that the high availability features were available on a box costing $35,000.

"The networking market now is like the mainframe market of the 1960's with custom hardware," Roberts said. "We need a new world that is more flexible and low cost leveraging off the shelf components."

Cisco's Davidson responded that hardware is a differentiator and that off the shelf consumer hardware isn't good enough. He argued that it is important to talk about how hardware is made as it affect the quality and reliability of a product.

"You can buy a 10 cent part that will last 18 monts or the 40 cent part that will last years, at Cisco we choose the 40 cent part," Davidson said.

Roberts responded that he's just trying to offer choice.

"Vyatta is all about flexibility, you can run it on the cheapest Taiwanese whitebox you can find but also on the highest quality IBM or HP chassis that has all the expensive components," Roberts said. "You will pay more for the high end chassis but the choice is yours. It is incorrect for Juniper and Cisco to call us the big bogeyman and that it's all just a PC. It's about what you're willing to pay to get."


Photo: (left to right) Amir Khan, Senior Director Product Line Management, Juniper,Dave Roberts, Vice President Strategy and Marketing, Vyatta, Jonathan Davidson, Director of Marketing, Edge Routing Business Unit, Cisco. Credit: Sean Michael Kerner

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Josh said:

That's why I love Linux and everything that revolves around it, the people involved do it because they love it, eventually creating the most innovative and solid products in the world. Cisco and Juniper are just worried about getting their fat salaries to fill gas in their Ferraris and Porches. Corporates are made of marketing/salesmen who care least about the customers, so they'll say as many lies to get what they want. Way to go Dave! Vyatta is going to kick some ass for sure!!

Fattom Boy said:


That's part of the whole story -- right? Some places in your network /really/don't/warrant/ a $35K expense (though perhaps some do). Linux is, again, offering an alternative where *you* get to choose -- if a $1K whitebox is what you need, fine - if you need a $10K branded box, fine - if you need a $35K uber-resilient box, then you also know where to go.

By choosing standards, and sizing your cost to your requirements, you buy the freedom. Operational differences can be challenging, but can be addressed -- support might be more of a challenge, as will be staff training. These are cultural elements, though, and Linux (as always) offers more options for the knowledgeable.

Jason said:

The vyatta solution is just awesome for some niches. We use them for border routers doing vrrp,bgp, and ospf. The cli is dramatically nicer to work with than the proprietary alternatives, and having a full linux environment can be a lifesaver for debugging. tcpdump ftw!

Mark said:

I think the most significant point in this article is choice. With customers having choice in the market, it will help drive competition and better products at competitive prices. In some situations an open source solution like Vyatta may make the most sense and for others it will be a solution from Cisco or Juniper. Cisco and Juniper have trusted, proven solutions and time will tell if Vyatta can compete in certain markets with them.

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