The Oracle already the app server Bea Logics. What s about GlassFish?

wondering if zfs will switch to GPL in order to be merged into linux kernel. storage is big business now and zfs is the thing missing in linux. oracle lead btrfs is far from mature...

I dreaded this day would eventually occur.

Looks like now comes more competition between IBM,Microsoft and ORACLE in the Database arena.

Oh did I forget to mention there is still an open source leading database by the name of PostgreSQL.

Now the fun begins!

I hope Sun's VirtualBox keeps going strong.

And, what about openoffice?

What of OpenOffice ?

It will be good competition now for MS Sql Server

How does this work....

Everything that Sun has, other than hardware, is open source...

Java is open source....I guess they are probably gonna cancel...QUIIICK....download the sources before they are eliminated....

This will be good for all.
Oracle and Sun collaborated in the past against Microsoft as a common threat. Oracle will now have such products as Open Office to continue to weaken Microsoft's hold on the desktop.

Linux OS may replace Solaris - a lot of good development of Linux globally.

MySql? It will continue. Oracle can plug into the installed base with new features and use the global developer resources too. They may not have earnings from MySql itself, but they install systems and support - and that's where the money is in Linux and Open Source.
This will be good for all.

Wow, must be nice having barrels of cash lying around!

Now Oracle owns Star Office, and the code base for Open Office.
How long will that last?

Somewhere in Redmond there is a gleeful cackling.

Off target on netbeans going away. Eclipse doesn't keep up with Sun's feature set for Java. Netbeans tracks more closely and I don't believe that Oracle would be able to move Eclipse' development along given that they don't own it.

But let's not kid ourselves. Oracle will marginalize MySQL, and Java will become more bloated and lose focus.

PostgreSQL anyone?

Actually PostgreSQL is owned by Sun too. So Oracle now has all the major open source DB players.

*SMK* actually...no one owns PostgreSQL.

I agree with @Sean. If Oracle's past behavior is any indicator, then it's a dark day for MySql.

http://ploneglenn.blogspot.com/2009/04/oracle-to-acquire-sun.html

I disagree with @Mike. Although Sun has backed PostGreSql in the past (including offering support for it) and does work on the port of PostGreSql for Solaris, it has not significantly contributed to the PostGreSql project overall, nor can it legitimately claim any ownership over this open source project.

http://www.postgresql.org/community/contributors/

I can see Oracle crippling certain key features of MySQL in a stripped down 'still for free version' in order to sell a more advanced, newer version of MySQL. In any case, I expect all of the innovative open source initiatives launched by Sun to be ultimately placed on the back shelf after this move.

Sun had no hope of survival by the late 1990s when McNeely Locked-in on selling "boxes" and stopped listening to the marketplace. Sun created huge value with Solaris and Java, but had no idea how to capture that value so it just kept doing what it always did. Eventually, the market didn't see the value in the boxes any more, and the value of Solaris and Java had been frittered away. A lesson for any company that it must adapt to market needs or it will be squashed. Read more at http://WWW.ThePhoenixPrinciple.com

As I see it, this merger has both its goods and bads for the developer community. Weblogic will now dominate totally while Glassfish might become like a community edition initially and stopped completely later. NetBeans could also go down the hole. But Java will continue to be supported by Oracle although the JCP process is not clear yet. MySQL will again become one of Oracle Fortes in the database universe.

What about the competition between .NET and J2EE.

MySQL is embedded in too many vendor products out there to have it go away. If they try and bury it, it will get forked by somebody and will move on as an open source project of a different name. Oracle is wise enough to see that. It will stay out there for consumption. Support path may get MUCH more expensive and make you wish you had chosen Oracle DB.

I doubt that Oracle will overlook the value that MySQL holds, and there have already been whispers of the community starting to pull code from a branch external to Sun. The only way they can clearly steer the way for that platform is to provide consistent improvement and maintain community interaction, otherwise the very nature of OSS might divert control of MySQL development away from them and it's not unlikely that MySQL was at least part of the incentive to buy Sun in the first place.

For me i see no future for MySql with Oracle, the first thing they will kill this one, for the rest of opensource we can see or will be killed or they will make it paid

Is there a chance that Oracle might make jdk a licensed version and sell it commercially?

Oracle is Business. It's all number game at the end of the day. Oracle has to
earn where Sun lost. i..e Making dollars from their innovation.

My thoughts -

1. Oracle DB will continue focussing on Enterprises(High end realtime Business) as it's right now
Mysql will focus on SMB(Small and Medium Business) rather competing with Oracle DB on Enterprise side. MySql will not be Free !!!

2. Oracle start delivering Value add Packages Software & Hardware.
example:
Solaris(Sparc) preconfigured with Oracle DB for Enterprise markets
Solaris(x86) preconfigured with Mysql for Enterprise markets

3. May be bad for Java. Java opensource community start loosing focus with Oracle leading JAVA standards and others like
IBM, SAP ... left behind.

4. May be bad for IBM (especially Websphere, Eclipse)

5. May be good for Solaris(x86) to enter in the market as alternative to Linux ... i.e bad for Linux

6. May be bad for Netbeans, Glassfish as Oracle's own JAVA IDE & Database will take precedense.

Oracle now controls the back-end (OracleDB, MySQL)
and the middleware layer (Java) for most of e-commerce. So whether you use AJAX or LAMP - they got ya. Pretty clever. Brilliant even. Whether it will be good or bad - tbd.

When I heard this story for the first time, I nearly choked. I have no love for Oracle, having had to work with an implementation of their software at my last job, and I can only sigh at the loss of Sun to what I feel is a money-hungry mega-corp.

MySQL will no longer be my SQL, as Oracle will certainly no longer allow use of it non-profit. Donadony is correct; they will kill MySQL quickly. It's certainly a sad day.

While it's possible that Oracle won't invest in NetBeans (I certainly hope they do!), NetBeans won't "die". NetBeans (particularly NB RCP) is currently the most (some would say "only") professional open-source ( commercially friendly opensource that is) pure Java application framework (Eclipse is based on SWT) that includes among others:
1. Window docking
2. Extreme Modularity with dynamic pluggability
3. PURE JAVA!
4. Complete database integration
5. and more and more and more and more...

@krishna koney You forget that if their kill something, we will create more copies of them...

Oracle, won't kill FOSS projects, their have BerkleyDB and that is FOSS, but I think that they want sun for three reasons:

1) They want to reinforce they position in the FOSS community;

2) They want Solaris to have their own platform;

3) They want java to make it attractive to mobile phones and as a embedded platform. (Since Oracle, proudly presents Nokia as one of the clients of sun)

Hope that Oracle is friendly also and will support Open Source community!

Is it possible that the Oracle will license the JDK & JRE?

Hope not! many java developers need those things!!!

1. Oracle will take over all enterprise MySQL customers. After 6 months the support will be stoped. Either they buy a Oracle DB or?
2. Java will be continued, but all open-source activities will be abandoned.
3. Netbeans and Glassfish are dead.
4. VirtualBox will be a commercial product.
5. Solaris?
6. OpenOffice?

PS: Oracle is not an open-source donor.

Oracle is moving into a very powerful position with the acquisition of Open Office, that's a really big thing here. I feel like Open Office Base has been a sleeping giant for a long time: SO much work done by web developers especially on intranets is just providing database access to desktop users. An office solution that actually leverages Oracle databases at every level would be extremely powerful.

I am not worried about MySQL going away either, they will probably marry it with Oracle enough that its a gateway for open source devs to move to Oracle, but accessible enough that people don't feel they need to move to /develop another DBMS.

Actually MySQL will be in good shape as I see it. Oracle needs a decent small DB to replace the piece of crap that is Oracle Lite. MySQL fits that bill. What oracle will provide is support which will be $$ in their pocket. They will add some stuff that makes it more robust but does not detract from the big iron Enterprise DB. things like native connectivity to the now Oracle Big brother DB.

Java not going anywhere. Oracle has done to much in Java in the DB and the OC4J app server to throw that away. the OAS 11g is currently in a pre-release state. If you through in the Jdeveloper stuff they have done and porting app the Oracle Apps logic to Java from Forms then Java will be around for a while.

through in the fact that Ellison hates M$ and I don't not think he would kill things that help him hurt Redmond.

I cant imagine anything will be free anymore, its only a matter of time before you'll have to pay big dollars for java and mysql

I seem to have missed a point - i honestly thought that open source meant just that - OPEN!?!?
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Such a shame to see a great product like MySQL start sliding down the slippery slope of Oracle profit-glut. Our organisation has been a major backer of MySQL but is now in the process of moving 34 core MySQL databases onto PostgreSQL. A major project but there is absolutely no doubt that MySQL has no future with big red.