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Netstat -vat by Sean Michael Kerner (bio)

A command line view of IT



Sun loses PostgreSQL lead

sun.jpgFrom the 'not everyone is happy at Sun (though lots are)' files:

PORTLAND. Sun has been supporting the PostgreSQL database since at least November of 2005, a few months later they hired Josh Berkus.PostgreSQL core team member as PostgreSQL Lead for Sun's Database Technology Group.

Since then a lot has happened at Sun, notably they bought rival open source database MySQL for $1 billion. So now six months after the MySQL acquisition and two years after joining Sun, Berkus is leaving.

I've had the good fortune to meet up with Berkus to talk about his experience at Sun and why he's leaving.
"Obviously Sun acquiring MySQL was not really encouraging to me," Berkus told InternetNews.com. "It meant PostgreSQL being number two to MySQL within Sun. So it's just not a real exciting atmosphere for a PostgreSQL guy."
Berkus also told me that there was a larger issue for him as well which dealt with the reasons why he joined Sun in the first place. He alleged that Sun just isn't doing big and exciting things as they're focussed on revenue in the database division and that's what Sun needs to do.
"It's good for Sun to sell support for PostgreSQL but that's good for Sun," Berkus said. "I really went into Sun in the first place because Sun has a very large core of high end engineers who really had the opportunity to take PostgreSQL to a bigger scale and do some interesting things with it that we hadn't classically done in the open source community."
I asked Sun spokesperson Terri Molini about Berkus leaving Sun and she said that she wished Berkus the best of luck in his future endeavors.

Berkus isn't yet certain what those future endeavors may be, though he told me he is entertaining some offers.

On an interestign side note, at a Sun party at OSCON on Wednesday night, Berkus actually literally wrestled with MySQL founder Monty Widenius (you know those big Sumo puff things) with a large crowd of spectators cheering them both on. Who ever said geeks can't be physical?

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I think it's interesting that SUN owns both PostgreSQL and MySQL. Berkus should leave, because it's a matter of time before SUN screws up one or the other - or both! His talent will be better used in other endeavors.

Josh Berkus said:

Velocity,

Actually, Sun doesn't "own" PostgreSQL, which is a community project with over 30 different companies involved. Sun is one of several large contributors to the database ... something which I expect them to continue in my absence.

And, for that matter, the Drizzle project proves that Sun doesn't really "own" MySQL either. Apparently you can't buy an open source project, not even for $1 billion.

--Josh Berkus

Well, if you're into watching the video of the sumo wrestle, take a gander at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAGgUCDiRlQ

Enjoy!

Dave said:

Josh,

We are in the process of moving our operation over to Postgresql. It is a highly transactional production operation and we found that MySQL wasn't able to handle the job as well as PG.

I know Sun spent a billion on MySQL but shouldn't they be promoting PG for the production side - not everything is a website and alot of their customers are probably running inhouse systems on Sun hardware. I just hope Sun isn't getting too drunk on MySQL because it has its limits.

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